The only downside I see to it is that I now have some idea of just how much money I've thrown at this thing in terms of parts.  lol

Now we just need a navigational tab at the top of the page for the 'Garage' that will list and directly link to each members garage, provided they have set theirs up.  Just like the Members page, but for the garages!  😀 

Love seeing how the site is coming along as new things are being added.  Keep up the good work!!  👍 

Add your Dark Horse and you get a clean, shareable build page — your specs, your color, your mod list with what each mod actually cost, and photos. It shows up in the public Owners Garage gallery (https://darkhorseowners.com/owner-garage/) where other owners and shoppers can see real builds instead of vendor stock photos.

Why bother logging the costs? Because we're pooling them into a running "what Dark Horse owners actually spend on mods" breakdown — real money, by category, from real cars. The more of us who fill it in, the more useful it gets for everyone planning their next mod.

A few we'd love to see: exhaust, tunes, superchargers, suspension, wheels/tires, brakes, aero. Stock cars welcome too — a clean baseline is just as valuable.

Add yours here: https://darkhorseowners.com/owners-garage/ (takes about 5 minutes). We'll be featuring a Garage of the Week from the submissions, so make yours look good.

So here's the honest version. The S650 Dark Horse has been a solid car overall — the Coyote and the chassis are the good news, and most of what owners report is fit-and-finish or drivability annoyances, not engine failures. But there ARE recurring items worth knowing about, because catching them early is the difference between a warranty fix and "that's just how it is now."

Two ground rules for this thread:

- Ford-confirmed and owner-reported are NOT the same thing. I've labeled which is which.

- Nothing here means your car has a problem. It's a checklist, not a prophecy.

FORD-CONFIRMED (recall territory — check your VIN)

There has been a recall covering certain 2026 builds for a cylinder head manufacturing issue where ball plugs can fail and cause an oil leak — fire and engine-seizure risk. The fix is a free cylinder head replacement. Notably, the affected cars were reported as still sitting in dealer inventory, so if you took delivery of a new car recently, this is the one to verify before you get comfortable.

Don't take my word for the scope. Run your own VIN — it takes two minutes and it's the only answer that applies to YOUR car. Steps are in the recalls thread in this forum.

OWNER-REPORTED: FIT AND FINISH (check these at delivery)

These come up over and over on S650 forums. Individually minor, much easier to get fixed before you sign:

- Panel gap at the nose cone, commonly the driver's side

- Trunk lid alignment sitting off-center, in some cases close enough to contact the tail light

- Uneven gaps where the headlight lens meets the bumper or body

- Ripples or waviness in the rear bumper along the molding seam lines

- Hood-to-fender and hood-to-bumper alignment being off

What to do: walk the car in daylight, not under showroom lights. Photograph anything you find and get it written on the delivery paperwork. "I'll mention it next time" is how these become permanent.

OWNER-REPORTED: DRIVABILITY

- 10R80 automatic: low-speed shudder or jerky shifts, particularly in stop-and-go

- A driveline shock or clunk on warm restarts

- A pinging or clicking from the rear axle area — this one carries over from S550s and often isn't a failure, but get it documented anyway

What to do: write down the exact conditions — temperature, gear, speed, warm or cold. A dealer can't chase "it feels weird sometimes." They can chase "clunk on the 2-3 upshift, under 25 mph, only when fully warm." And get it on a repair order while you're in warranty, even if they can't reproduce it. The paper trail is the point.

OWNER-REPORTED: COOLANT LEVEL

Some owners report the coolant level dropping and staying low after topping off. Check it cold, mark where it sits, and check again in a week. If it keeps falling, that's a dealer visit — not something to manage with a jug in the trunk. A cooling system that consumes coolant is telling you something.

NOT A DEFECT, BUT CATCHES PEOPLE OUT: THE TROFEO RS TIRES

If you have the Handling Package, you're on Pirelli P Zero Trofeo RS — a track-focused summer tire, and easily the most misunderstood item on the car.

Below roughly 45F the compound goes hard, grip falls off badly, and owners have reported cracked tires after cold-weather exposure. Pirelli's warranty specifically excludes compound cracking from use below about 45F, so this is not a claim you'll win. Several owners in cold climates have moved to a Michelin Pilot Sport 4S or similar as a daily-driver set and saved the Pirellis for warm days and track use.

This isn't the tire being bad. It's the tire being exactly what it says it is, in the wrong weather.

THE BOTTOM LINE

Most of this list is "inspect carefully and document early," not "the car is fragile." The owners who end up frustrated are almost always the ones who noticed something at month two, waited, and brought it up at month twenty-six.

Anything safety-related or warranty-related goes to Ford or your dealer, not to a forum thread — including this one. Use this to know what to ask about, not as a substitute for asking.

Your turn: what has actually needed attention on yours, and how many miles were on it? Please include model year and whether it's a manual or auto — the pattern only shows up when enough of us post real data. Zero-problem reports are just as useful as problem reports, so post those too.

Right now, nationwide:

- 682 Dark Horses for sale (435 new, 247 used, 47 CPO)

- Used floor: about $46,200 (a 2024 with ~28,600 miles)

- Clean, low-mile used: roughly $52,000–$56,000

- New (standard Dark Horse): about $64,000–$77,000. With the markup frenzy behind us, you can find these right around MSRP if you shop around.

- Heads up on the six-figure listings: about 14 nationwide are $100K–$205K. Those are the Dark Horse SC (Ford's 795hp supercharged flagship) plus Hennessey/built cars — most listed at or near their own very high MSRP. They are NOT base Dark Horses with a crazy markup, so don't let those numbers scare you.

- What they actually sell for at auction (Cars & Bids + Bring a Trailer): recent sales run from a stock Premium around $59K up to a supercharged Hennessey H850 at $78K (May 2026). Auction cars skew low-mile and modified, so a normal, driven stock Premium is more of a low-$60Ks car. Only about half meet reserve — owners know what they have and hold out for a strong number.

Takeaway: the market has matured a lot from the ADM-on-everything days of a year ago — pricing is fair and sane, there's healthy selection, and demand is clearly still there for what is a genuinely desirable, limited-run car. The main thing is knowing which car you're actually looking at (standard vs SC) and the real national range, so no dealer can spin you.

Full report, updated weekly: https://darkhorseowners.com/guides/dark-horse-for-sale/

What are you seeing in your area? Post what you paid, or what you're being quoted — the more we share, the more we all know.

Based on what we're seeing across forums and build threads, exhaust tends to be the most popular first move. The active exhaust sounds great stock, but a lot of owners are adding Borla, MagnaFlow, or Corsa cat-backs pretty quickly \xe2\x80\x94 or going straight for long-tube headers and an H-pipe. After that it's usually a tune: the S650 ECU has been cracked, and shops like Lund Racing, 5 Star, and Wengerd Performance are doing solid work, especially on E85 where real-world gains can hit +70 rwhp with bolt-ons.

Beyond that, JLT cold air intakes are popular, and a lot of owners are going the PPF + ceramic coat route early to protect the paint before any track time. Short-throw shifter knobs and other small interior tweaks seem to come later once the go-fast stuff is sorted.

What was your first mod? Was it exhaust, a tune, protection film, or something totally different? And what's sitting at the top of your list right now?

THE PRICE GAP

The Dark Horse typically stickers roughly $11-12K over a base GT (less against a loaded GT Premium, since some Dark Horse standard gear is optional on the GT). Exact MSRP moves by model year and options, so confirm current numbers with your dealer before you commit.

WHAT'S ACTUALLY DIFFERENT (the stuff that matters)

- Engine: Same 5.0L Coyote family, but the Dark Horse is tuned to 500 hp / 418 lb-ft vs the GT's 480 hp (486 with active exhaust). It also gets a dual-throttle-body intake and forged connecting rods derived from the GT500's Predator engine — built for sustained high-rpm track use.

- Transmission: Dark Horse comes standard with the Tremec TR-3160 6-speed manual (the closer-ratio, shorter-throw unit related to the GT350/GT500 box). The GT's manual is a different, less track-focused gearbox. Both offer the 10-speed auto.

- Brakes: Brembo six-piston front calipers with larger rotors are standard on the Dark Horse.

- Suspension: MagneRide adaptive dampers are standard on the Dark Horse; they're optional on the GT Premium.

- Cooling: Extra engine-oil, transmission, and rear-diff coolers — the thing that keeps lap times consistent instead of falling off after a few hot laps.

- Differential: Torsen limited-slip standard.

- Track toys: Line lock, launch control, and the factory drift/drag brake are built in.

- Looks: Bigger rear wing, more aggressive splitter, and darkened exterior accents.

WHO SHOULD BUY WHICH (honest take)

- Get the Dark Horse if you'll actually do track days or HPDE, want the Tremec + MagneRide + Brembos from the factory, and value the cooling for repeat hard laps. On track, the difference is real, not just badges.

- The GT is the smarter buy if it's mostly a street car, weekend canyon runs, and occasional track use — you keep the V8 soundtrack and most of the fun for meaningfully less money, and you can option a Performance/Handling package to close some of the gap.

There's no wrong answer here — just the right answer for your use case. The 20 hp is the least interesting part of the story; the drivetrain, brakes, and cooling are what you're really paying for.

Owners: which way did you go, and knowing what you know now, would you make the same call? If you cross-shopped and picked the GT, tell us why — that's genuinely useful for the folks still deciding.

(Specs summarized from Ford's published figures for the S650 GT and Dark Horse; verify current-model-year MSRP and packages with your dealer.)

Yeah, it's really beautiful down there, and there's so much to do with Mt Rushmore, Crazy Horse, Devils Tower, etc.  Really looking forward to it!

Ford specifies 5W-30 full synthetic for the Dark Horse's flat-plane 5.0L — notably a step up in viscosity from the 5W-20 used in the cross-plane GT. The factory fill is full synthetic from the factory, and Ford's published service interval is every 7,500 miles or 12 months, whichever comes first. Oil capacity with filter is 10 quarts, so budget accordingly.

Here's where it gets interesting: Ford considers the engine pre-broken-in from the factory (they run every Coyote on a dyno before it ships), so there's no strict mandatory early-change requirement. That said, a large chunk of the community — especially track-focused owners — prefers to do a first change around 500–1,000 miles to flush any assembly residue, then again after the first track session regardless of mileage. If you're planning spirited driving early on, that's a reasonable precaution.

Worth noting: the Dark Horse does have an oil life monitor that adjusts intervals based on driving conditions. If you're doing canyon runs or occasional track days it may prompt you earlier than 7,500. And if you're running on track regularly, most experienced owners drop to a 3,000–5,000 mile interval and use a quality full synthetic like Motul 8100 or Castrol Edge 5W-30.

What's your oil routine? Are you sticking to Ford's 7,500-mile interval, doing an early first change, or running a different spec altogether? Drop your setup below — always good to see what's working for people.

If you've ordered (or are trying to), post:

- Trim: base SC / Track Pack / Track Pack Special Edition

- Order date and dealer (state/region at minimum)

- Allocation status: confirmed allocation, waitlist, or still hunting

- Pricing: MSRP deal or ADM (numbers help everyone — see our dealer markup tracker thread too)

- Build week / VIN / delivery date as you get them

As cars start arriving: delivery photos and first impressions welcome right here.

Why this matters: allocation info is the hardest thing to find when a halo car launches. A few honest data points ("my dealer in GA got 2 allocations, both spoken for") save the next buyer weeks of phone calls. I'll keep a summary updated in this post as reports come in.

Reference: Ford's announced pricing is $103,490 base, $139,990 Track Pack, $170,970 Track Pack Special Edition (destination and gas guzzler included). Order banks are open; deliveries expected summer 2026.

No dealer bashing — just the facts and the timeline.